in 2014 be a matter of presidential discussion? should it be a matter of debate for house candidates right now? is it a matter for congress to decide? >> well, it is a matter of our national security, and how does this fit into that. t th ne.nt inrs it doesn't mean it will take all of that time. but it will be done by that time. and that is progress from where we had been. you have to remember, when president bush was president, there was no plan. we had been there 6 y nplan. we routed the taliban, we did not defeat them, and then we left and went to iraq. so president obama had to put a plan in place and a timetable to get it done. so it may n be as fast as we would all ke, but the fact is, oantreasure, tost important part, our young people, the casualties to their lives and to their physical ll-being and their mental -- it's all physical, mental or not. so, yeah, i do think that this is taking tus a p whee shld really understand that war, as a resolution of conflict, is an obsolete idea. and we should take the debate to a bigger